Thalénite-(Y)

Y3Si3O10F
IMA status
  • Approved
IMA symbol
Tlé-Y
Also known as
  • Fluorthalénite-(Y)
  • Thaléniet-(Y)

Where it forms, where it's found

Type locality
Österby
  1. St. Skedevi
  2. Säter
  3. Dalarna County
  4. Sweden

60.4005°, 15.7195°

38recorded occurrences
Source · OpenStreetMap

Physical

Hardness
123456789106/ 10 MOHS
  1. 1Talc
  2. 2Gypsum
  3. 3Calcite
  4. 4Fluorite
  5. 5Apatite
  6. 6Orthoclase
  7. 7Quartz
  8. 8Topaz
  9. 9Corundum
  10. 10Diamond
Transparency
Translucent
Colour
Pale pink · brown or greenish
Streak
White
Tenacity
brittle

Optical

Optical type
Biaxial (-) · 2V measured = 68° · 2V calc = 84°
Refractive index
1.731 – 1.744
Surface relief
High
Principal indices
nα 1.731 · nβ 1.738 · nγ 1.744
Dispersion
r > v
Michel-Lévy diagramhighlighted lineδ = 0.0130
Attainable Michel-Lévy rangeΔ ∈ [0, t·δmax]130 nm1st order
Δ = 0Δmax
Thin-section mosaic70 grains · random 3D orientations
PPLpleochroism per grain
XPLindependent extinctions · rotate the stage
Interference simulatorsingle grain · PPL ↔ XPL
PPLpleochroism only · colour blends on rotation
XPLinterference colour · extinct every 90°
Retardation130 nm
Order1st order
XPL colour

Crystallography

Crystal system
Monoclinic
Space group
#14
Cell parameters
a = 7.3464(4) Å · b = 11.1726(5) Å · c = 10.4180(5) Å
Cell angles
β = 97.318(4) °
Ratio a:b:c
1 : 1.521 : 1.418
Unit cell volume
848.13 ų
Z
4
Comment

Spacegroup P21/n

Crystal structure

Chemical composition

Constituent elements
Mass composition breakdown
ElementAtoms At. mass g/mol Mass g/molMass share
39YYttriumYttrium388.906266.718
50.33%
8OOxygenOxygen1015.999159.990
30.19%
14SiSiliconSilicon328.08584.255
15.90%
9FFluorineFluorine118.99818.998
3.58%
Total529.961100.00%

Mass share = atoms × atomic mass ÷ molar mass × 100

From IMA formula

Synonyms

  • Fluorthalénite-(Y)
  • Thaléniet-(Y)

In other languages

German
Thalénit-(Y)
Italian
Thalénite- · thalénite-(Y)

Classification

Strunz
10th ed.

9.BJ.20

  • 9SilicatesClass
  • 9.BSorosilicatesDivision
  • 9.BJSorosilicates with Si3O10, Si4O11, etc. anions; cations in octahedral [6] and greater coordinationGroup
  • 9.BJ.20Thalénite-(Y)Species
Dana
8th ed.

55.02.1b.02

  • 55Sorosilicates Si2o7 Groups, Generally with No Additional AnionsClass
  • 55.02Si2O7 Groups, Generally with no Additional Anions with cations in [6] coordinationType
  • 55.02.1b— unnamed intermediate level —Group
  • 55.02.1b.02Thalénite-(Y)Species
CIM

14.8.1

  • 14Silicates not Containing AluminumClass
  • 14.8Silicates of Group III metals other than AlGroup
  • 14.8.1Thalénite-(Y)Species

Group, growth & confusion

Often grow together
1 mineral

Literature, links & citation

Citations
  1. 1898Benedicks C (1898): Mötet den 3 November 1898 [Thalénit, frän Österby i Dalarne]. Geologiska Föreningens i Stockholm Förhandlingar 20, 308-312
  2. 1900Benedicks, C. (1900) Thalenit, ein neues Mineral aus Osterby in Dalekarlien. Bulletin of the Geological Institution of the University of Upsala, IV, 1-15.
  3. 1906Sjögren, Hj. (1906) Thalenit från Åskagens kvartsbrott i Värmland. Geologiska Föreningen i Stockholm Förhandlingar, 28 (1) 93-101 doi:10.1080/11035890609445511DOI: 10.1080/11035890609445511
  4. 1922Vogt, Thorolf (1922) Über Thalenit von Hundholmen, in Die Mineralien der südnorwegischen Granitpegmatitgänge. II. Silikate der seltenen Erde (Y-reihe und Ce-reihe). Videnskapsselskapet i Kristiania Skrifter - I Matematisk-naturvidenskabelig klasse, 1922 (1). 18-47
  5. 1931Schetelig, Jakob (1931) Remarks on thalenite from some new occurrences in southern Norway. Norsk Geologisk Tidsskrift [Norwegian Journal of Geology], 12 (1-4) 507-519
Cite this entry
@misc{mineral2026,
  author    = {Mineral Index editorial board},
  title     = {Thalénite-(Y) — Mineral Index},
  year      = {2026},
  url       = {https://mineralindex.org/minerals/thalenite-y-3931},
  note      = {Accessed 2026-05-11}
}