Carminite

PbFe3+2(AsO4)2(OH)2
IMA status
  • Approved
  • Grandfathered
IMA symbol
Cmt
Discovered
1850
Also known as
  • Carmine Spar
  • Carminiet
  • Carminit
  • +2 more

History

The name says exactly what the eye sees. Carminite is a deep carmine red — the rich crimson of the cochineal dye called carmine — and it was the colour, not a person, that earned the mineral its name.

The German mineralogist Fritz Sandberger first described it in 1850. He called it Carminspath, joining the colour word carmine to spath, the old German term for a crystalline, easily split mineral. The crystals he studied formed clusters of fine needles, carmine to tile red, and stay red even when light passes through them.

A few years later the name crossed into English. The American mineralogist James Dwight Dana anglicised Carminspath to carminite in the fourth edition of his System of Mineralogy, published in 1854. The shortened, Latin-suffixed form is the one still in use.

Carminite is a rare secondary mineral — one that forms not when rock first crystallises but later, as earlier minerals break down near the surface. It appears where arsenopyrite, an iron arsenic sulfide, weathers in the oxidised upper zones of some lead-bearing ore deposits. The original specimens came from the Louise Mine at Bürdenbach, in the Rhineland-Palatinate region of Germany, the locality that defines the species.

Industrial & practical applications

Carminite has no industrial use. It is far too rare to mine, and its mix of lead, iron, and arsenic offers nothing that cheaper, more abundant minerals do not supply better.

What value it has is to people who study and collect minerals. Its deep carmine-red needles make it a prized specimen, and as a rare secondary arsenate it draws interest from researchers describing the minerals that form when arsenic-bearing ores weather.

Where it forms, where it's found

Type locality
Louise Mine
  1. Bürdenbach
  2. Altenkirchen-Flammersfeld
  3. Altenkirchen
  4. Rhineland-Palatinate
  5. Germany

50.6054°, 7.5106°

198recorded occurrences
Source · OpenStreetMap

Safety & handling

Physical

Hardness
123456789103.5/ 10 MOHS
  1. 1Talc
  2. 2Gypsum
  3. 3Calcite
  4. 4Fluorite
  5. 5Apatite
  6. 6Orthoclase
  7. 7Quartz
  8. 8Topaz
  9. 9Corundum
  10. 10Diamond
Transparency
Translucent
Colour
Carmine-red · terra cotta-red · reddish brown · red in transmitted light.
Streak
Reddish yellow
Tenacity
brittle
Cleavage
Distinct/Good

On (110), distinct.

Density
5.03 g/cm³

Optical

Optical type
Biaxial (+)
Refractive index
2.05 – 2.08
Surface relief
Very high
Principal indices
nα 2.05 – 2.07 · nβ 2.05 – 2.07 · nγ 2.06 – 2.08
Pleochroism
Visible

X = Light yellowish red Y = Dark carmine-red Z = Dark carmine-red

Dispersion
r < v strong
Extinction
X = c; Y = a; Z = b.
Michel-Lévy diagramhighlighted lineδ = 0.0100
Attainable Michel-Lévy rangeΔ ∈ [0, t·δmax]100 nm1st order
Δ = 0Δmax
Thin-section mosaic70 grains · random 3D orientations
PPLpleochroism per grain
XPLindependent extinctions · rotate the stage
Interference simulatorsingle grain · PPL ↔ XPL
PPLpleochroism only · colour blends on rotation
XPLinterference colour · extinct every 90°
Retardation100 nm
Order1st order
XPL colour

Crystallography

Crystal system
Orthorhombic
Space group
#48
Cell parameters
a = 16.591 Å · b = 7.58 Å · c = 12.285 Å
Ratio a:b:c
1 : 0.457 : 0.740
Z
8
Morphology

Crystals lath-like, flattened on (010), elongated [001] and exhibiting (010), (110), (011) plus other forms. As needle-like crystals; tufted or spherical aggregates; fibrous, drusy, massive.

Crystal structure

Chemical composition

Constituent elements
Mass composition breakdown
ElementAtoms At. mass g/mol Mass g/molMass share
82PbLeadLead1207.200207.200
32.85%
8OOxygenOxygen1015.999159.990
25.36%
33AsArsenicArsenic274.922149.844
23.76%
26FeIronIron255.845111.690
17.71%
1HHydrogenHydrogen21.0082.016
0.32%
Total630.740100.00%

Mass share = atoms × atomic mass ÷ molar mass × 100

From IMA formula

Synonyms

  • Carmine Spar
  • Carminiet
  • Carminit
  • Carminspath
  • Karminspat

In other languages

French
Carminite
German
Karminit
Spanish
Carminita
Italian
carminite
Russian
Карминит

Classification

Strunz
10th ed.

8.BH.30

  • 8Phosphates, Arsenates, VanadatesClass
  • 8.BPhosphates, etc., with additional anions, without H2ODivision
  • 8.BHWith medium-sized and large cations, (OH,etc.):RO4 = 1:1Group
  • 8.BH.30CarminiteSpecies
Dana
8th ed.

41.10.06.01

  • 41Anhydrous Phosphates, Etc.containing Hydroxyl or HalogenClass
  • 41.10(AB)3(XO4)2ZqType
  • 41.10.06Carminite GroupGroup
  • 41.10.06.01CarminiteSpecies
CIM

20.5.12

  • 20Arsenates (also arsenates with phosphate, but without other anions)Class
  • 20.5Arsenates of Ti and PbGroup
  • 20.5.12CarminiteSpecies

Group, growth & confusion

In the same group
2 members
Commonly confused with
1 mineral

Literature, links & citation

Citations
  1. 1850von Sandberger (1850) Carminspath, ein neues mineral aus der Ordnung der Arseniate. Annalen der Physik und Chemie (Poggendorff), Halle, Leipzig: 80: 391-392 (as Carminspath).
  2. 1854Dana, James D. (1854) A System of Mineralogy (4th ed.). p.1-849.
  3. 1858von Sandberger (1858) Ueber den Carminspath. Annalen der Physik und Chemie (Poggendorff), Halle, Leipzig: 103: 345 (as Carminspath).
  4. 1910Russell, Arthur (1910) On the occurrence of the rare mineral Carminite in Cornwall. Mineralogical Magazine and Journal of the Mineralogical Society, 15 (71) 285-287 doi:10.1180/minmag.1910.015.71.03 DOI: 10.1180/minmag.1910.015.71.03
  5. 1934Larsen, E.S.; Berman, H. (1934) The microscopic determination of the nonopaque minerals. Bulletin of the US Geological Survey Vol. 848. US Geological Survey p.1-266. doi:10.3133/b848 DOI: 10.3133/b848
Cite this entry
@misc{mineral2026,
  author    = {Mineral Index editorial board},
  title     = {Carminite — Mineral Index},
  year      = {2026},
  url       = {https://mineralindex.org/minerals/carminite-905},
  note      = {Accessed 2026-05-11}
}